I found it on YouTube and apparently it is some B-Side to an "Englishman in New York" single from 1987. I didn't even know about this LOL.

I went to the Lyrics Library at "Sting etc." and they have a huge list of Sting songs and who wrote them but the writer is If You There (according to that site) is indeterminable - as if no one knows who wrote it.

Did Sting write it? It sounds a little bit 80s-ish but I still like it.

yes , Sting wrote it

I thought so. It sounded like it had a Sting vibe - sort of reminiscent of Lazarus Heart but with some sort of twist, LOL.

Please post the Youtube link, I wanna hear it!

On the outer, paper cover, it does state that it was written by Sting, produced by Neil Dorfsman and Sting & mixed by Paul McKenna. It also states that it was administered (released) as the b-side to the cassette single of Englishman in New York in the U.S. and Canada. The CD single had Someone to Watch Over Me and Up from the Skies as the b-sides. The CD single originally came in a 3" mini disk and was later rereleased in the 5" format. New stereos used to come with a "converter" for those 3" CD singles.

It does sound a bit dated today. I chose that title because it was obscure.

If you there is the beside to the They Dance Alone Single (I have it). It was as well bside to Englishman?

Why do I write "beside".. of course it was meant to be "b-side". It's time for weekend to come...

Sheep, is your version a cassette single of They Dance Alone?

No it's a record single. Now about the b-side on the Englishman record...

If You There is the b-side on the cassette single only of Englishman in New York.

EINY vinyl 45: b-side was Ghost in the Strand.

EINY vinyl 12": b-sides Ghost in the Strand & Bring on the Night/When the World Is Runnin' Down (Live)

EINY CD single: b-sides were Someone to Watch Over Me & Up from the Skies

Thanks for the info IfYouThere! I've never heard of Ghost in the strand.

What is Ghost in the strand? Please tell... never heard as well

Ghost in the Strand is a jazz/pop fusion instrumental. It is a bit more subdued than the title track for the Dream of the Blue Turtles CD until the end when they play double time. Branford plays the melody on the alto sax (not the soprano sax for sure.) It was first the b-side to the Be Still My Beating Heart vinyl 45 and cassette single in the U.S. and Canada. It was later re-included with the Englishman in New York vinyl 45 and 12" in the U.S., Canada & elsewhere. While Be Still My Beating Heart was a #15 single in America, it is not listed as a single release on Sting.com (I am starting to find there are a lot of mistakes and lacking information on the Sting.com site.)

Sting re-recorded the same melody as Giacomo's Blues that I have as a b-side to the two different CD singles for I'm So Happy that I Can't Stop Crying. This time the melody is played on a jazz guitar and there is no double time section at the end. The instrumentation sounds very similar to the Pirate's Bride recording.

I have always wondered if this was at some point intended to be the jazz/fusion instrumental song included for Nothing Like the Sun (like the title track from Dream of the Blue Turtles.) I have always thought that Sting appeared to change the overall direction in theme during the recording process of that album.

P.S. Sheep, Englishman in New York/If You There was a vinyl 7" released <1200> in March of 1988. I had totally forgotten that because I never saw it in a store. It charted at #84 that month in the U.S.

so it's nowhere on CD LOL?

gosh this stuff gets me nostalgic for Sting's heyday.

Thanks IfYouThere! May I ask.. do you have cassette singles? I didn't even know they existed, I only know venyl singles. Which I collect, but it's hard to find Sting or Police singles on flea markets or in second-hand record stores. I like the warm sound of venyl.

I had the single with If You There on the B-site
But someone funny left the single in a very sunny place.
How I cried about it, I never heard If You There again

I was once informed that Ghost In The Strand was recorded by Sting (bass), Kenny Kirkland (piano), Steve Coleman (sax), Delmar Brown (keyboards) and Marvin Smitty Smith (drums) around the time that they were rehearsing for the South American tour for Nothing Like The Sun in 1987. Two quick jam sessions were edited together and used as the b-side.

Bahtology, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the information.

Sheep, when I was a teenager, I lived in the middle of nowhere with no local record/cassette/CD store. When I did go to a city, I just bought everything Sting I could find. My priorities were non album b-sides, live tracks, remixs & radio edits. This was before the day of internet shopping and Ebay.

Sting cassette singles I have are:
If You Love Somebody Set Them Free 4 track
We'll Be Together 2 track
Englishman in New York 2 track
Mad About You 2 track
If I Ever Lose My Faith 2 track
Nothing 'bout Me 2 track

I still have alot of the early Sting on vinyl as well.

from this era there is also "conversation with a dog" and "ooh la la Hugh". They're not on youtube ....where can I hear them?

Everyone be patient and someone will give you a present. MICRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!My computer is fixed but I haven't got it yet. I have so much dang stuff on that thing.

I finally bought Ooh La La Hugh a year or so ago. It was not worth the money I spent on it.

IYT- Same here...I can remember scrounging every record store, used & new, in every town/city for anything Sting...Police...otherwise. Good thing I haven't delved into the "torrent field" nowadays, least I be washed away forever in a sea of infinte recordings...