Read the below. I am happy Andy said it. Was is interesting is that Sting, Stew and Kathryn Schenker (who said I'd bet the ranch on it) all reconfirm The Police are DONE with live concerts. No one has ever said they won't record again.

My guess is in a year or two we might get a Police box set #2 or Greatest Hits with a re-recording of old song or maybe two or three songs.

Sting is way smart and promoted the MSG concert as the last time they will ever play live.

Willing to bet the Live Nation or someone else has an offer in the background.

I think it would be cool if Sting recorded a new album with half Police/half solo artists and then toured with a Broken Music band. The best of all worlds.

The Police wrap up the tour Thursday, in New York

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 - 04:49 PM

NEW YORK (AP) - Guitarist Andy Summers of The Police says he has loved seeing "people break out into sobs or kiss each other and jump around expressing joy" during The Police reunion tour.

The Police wrap up the tour Thursday, in New York.

Drummer Stewart Copeland says the last leg has had the best shows because the band has become "less uptight about living the legend." Will they ever
reunite again? Copeland says no and that's what made it fun.

Summers says, maybe. He says he's ready to say, "We're fine and we're done," but he adds, "I'm fully prepared if someone comes back in a couple of years and says we ought to give it a go. You have to consider it."

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Here's the challenge to Sting

- you have proved and probably exceeded expectations what the Police could achieve if they got back together. An audience of 3 million voted with their pockets together with bigger venue audiences than the height of Synchronicty
Sting could'nt do this on his own. Andy and Stewart were needed to get that authentic police sound.

What is down to Sting to achieve is the challenge of a hit song - can you still do it - over to you

STing can do that without Andy and Stewart. I have heard reports that the Police aren't done yet so I would not rule out a new record or tour. NEVER SAY NEVER

correction....STing can't do it without Andy and Stewart

kathyrn, sting and stewart said no but possibly it is just the PR hype. They are not done yet

why reproduce the police sound?

i don't think it's needed. not one bit.

Reg - sTING did it without Andy and Stewart for 22 years (before the reunion). If he wishes to collaborate to create new things he should do it with younger musicians.

younger musicians..oh my god, I am not even going to post my response to that one cause it is too vulgar

And we are grateful reg...thnks!!!

it seems Andy isn't the only person who can't "let go".

Hey,

Can you really blame Andy for not wanting to let go. I dont want to let go. I am still hoping for a new album or better yet a new tour. But I am dreaming I know.

Slumach

this isn't meant to go against anyone specific, but this simply reaffirms that you can't please fans. ever. years ago i remember people simply called for the police to tour again. "oh, just a tour. that's all we ask. just to see our favorite band again live. we want/need nothing more!" now that it has happened, people want more and more. a new album, another tour, etc...

STing has nowhere to go but a Police album

STing is going back home to Tuscany, dude

I love Sting but I am not ready for another lute album or Sting album. Say what you want
but the electricity of a Police concert does not even approach that of a Sting concert, and I love Sting concerts and they are special. This is no slight to Sting, because a huge part of that magic of a Police concert is Sting!!! It's hard to explain but this thing that these three produce when together is amazing. BTW, the same goes for Stewart and Andy. Great solo stuff, but without the Stingster there is a umph missing!

It was a memorable and fun show. And yes, the fat lady has sung, but seeing how much energy these “old” guys still have, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them put on another show. Sting’s going back to his lute tour after this (yawn…) and then what?... Not another Sacred Love I hope.

Not another boring STing lute or boring crap album
he is nowhere to go
STing's albums or concerts don't even come close to the Police
STing will lose whatever umph if he goes back to solo crap

correction - boring crap solo career

Ok " boring crap solo career " is way overboard but I understand the frustration. Hopefully, the Sting man will come to
his senses. Many of you hit the nail on the head. Sting is always talking about risk and putting out a new Police record at this point would be his 2nd riskiest
project ever. The first? Dropping Andy and Stewart in the first place to go solo, and that went pretty well for him as would a new Police project. That being said, I would be shocked if it happened.

i didn't mean what i posted, mets )

I know!! I agree with your sentiment though. The Police is where it is at.

solo crap career
yes STing is always talking about his stupid challenges, make another STing solo album is MOST definitely not a challenge
Making the ultimate Police album is

that would be a challenge to say the least. Sting and Andy Summers would probably have to dumb down themselves and their talents in order to make something that diehard Police fans would accept. they already had to disregard their respective musical evolutions for that nostalgic reunion tour. Sting had to sing a number of those tunes with goofy childish lyrics and Summers had to neglect the progressive gains he has made as a guitarist. and they did it all for you. what more do you want from them? do you require a complete musical regression? will that satisfy you?

There can never be another "true" Police album because the Police are no longer a group. They don't live in each other's pockets like they used to. They each have their own life. It would sound like a three individual musicians with different styles playing together - something that was criticized by the "true" Police fans during the reunion tour. And, as Glarbage said, they have grown and outgrown each other. A person cannot go back.

It reminds me of that running gag in Married with Children, where Al kept recalling his high school record of making 4 touchdowns in one game. Let's face it he wasn't able to do that again, nor can Stewart, Andy and Sting be the "old Police". Even if they do record an album together, I can guarantee you Regg - you'd hate it.

wait, regga, are you trying to say that the solo career is boring crap?... come again... i think you're trying to tell us something

yaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.........

These endless tirades are what is boring...

Sport - speaking of - How many think Michael Phelps would get 8 Gold? Methinks this is more interesting.

STing make that Police album, give the fans what they want and yes solo career is boring crap

hey regga, thanks for making your opinion known to we fans once again. we definitely appreciate your input. and let's face it, if you do happen to drill your opinions into us over and over again, i am sure the obvious outcome can only be that we all wind up agreeing with you. :)
so i assume you are doing so for our benefit and our eventual enjoyment of the inevitable new Police studio album.
it must be for us, since i know you are much too intelligent to even assume that Sting would ever be perusing this forum. i can tell from your cogent and insightful posts that you are not the delusional type.
so please carry on, and we will most definitely come around to your logic and eventually embrace your line of thinking.
you are doing us all a major service.

If you want to focus on certain delusional paranoid threads on this board I will be more than happy to do so with you. In the time I have been in here, I have become quite intrigued with certain behaviors and moods. It is so easy to look into the DSM but having an intelligent conversation about subjects with others is always more fun. It seems to have become more important than wondering about a new Police album or STing's next venture into the abyss.

>>>'In the time I have been in here, I have become quite intrigued with certain behaviors and moods.'<<<

in the time you have been in here, you have been equally intent on provoking certain reactions which may have resulted in certain behaviors and moods.

>>>'having an intelligent conversation about subjects with others is always more fun.'<<<

then let us put all of the focus on this, shall we? the majority of us here are always quite willing to welcome "intelligent conversation" when it is offered...as well as respectable debate - which can be equally compelling and enjoyable.

As far as provoking that is one's opinion. people are only responsible for their actions not others. The idea of having a board is that people have different opinions. I'm not the only one who has a strong opinion about STing in here so I don't feel guilty whatsoever. Read the entire board. It is that some in here think otherwise and personalize. I have stated before my reasoning for this. If someone told me the Police suck and they are the worst group ever that doesn't mean I'm going to go after them with a machete. It is an opinion. and people need to respect. As I have stated many many times in here, it is about respecting opinions but some in here just don't get it. Therefore, I don't have to justify my reasoning

now let's move on

Andy is not the only one not letting go. On the official website you can now sign up for a newsletter which among other things will alert to future ticket sales?? We can hope can't we?

I believe that is just there but you are right we can always hope
As I said I don't think it is over for the Police and STing knows this. I am sure Live Nation has approached him already. That is why making a solo album would be too obvious. A boring solo album is not the way to go: the challenge is the ultimate Police album

BTW. I think many have been harsh on reggadabla. While I think calling Sting boring is unfair,
it's his opinion. Love Sting or not, The Police is where he made his name and what enabled him to go on his successful solo career. Personally, his best solo album is not better than anything he did with the Police ( except perhaps Zenyatta )Would Sting have been successful had he not been with The Police? I think he is way too talented, and would have made a name for himself, but we can't say for sure he would be the rock idol he is today.

and what's after the ultimate police album?..

thank you mets. without andy and stewart, STing wouldn't be where he is today.
Personally, his best solo album is not better than anything he did with the Police- I totally agree. As one journalist said, STing should be grateful for being with Andy and Stewart. without them, he would have just done his jazz stuff. Rock was not his first forte. Unfortunately, he is control freak which pretty much takes the democracy out of a band he should always bow down to. This is why I say STing get smart, take up the challenge and make the ultimate Police album

i assure you sting is grateful for knowing andy and stewart, i've never heard him say otherwise. and andy and stewart wouldn't have made it without sting's songwriting either. the police is too synergetic to speak of/praise/blame its separate elements. it's like i love peanut butter but i hate peanuts.
what's your personal ranking of the police albums, bla?

I wouldn't go equating Sting's work with The Police with his solo stuff. They are two seperate things, for the most part. To say one is better than the other is just a matter of perspective. Sting knows where he is at in this...it's a continuum of development with steps forward and with steps back, all throughout. I can't say I prefer one over the other really. It's quality not quantity. He's done more than most creative artists. Let's give the man his due and give him some rest. I'm sure he needs the break.

Although I do prefer The Police, excellent points by Sport.

I agree with you mets and yes sport it is all about steps. STing needs to take that step forward and make the Police album. while some of STing's stuff is good it eclipses what he has with the Police. Andy and Stewart give him that zing. Some of STing's musicians have sucked to say the least. This time around STing needs to give the Police album a go

>>>"Some of STing's musicians have sucked to say the least."<<<

ok, that is an attention getter, to say the least. reggadabla, would you mind taking out some time to list some names of those musicians who have 'sucked'?
this could be very interesting. :)

i'll do it. it's a short one:
1) Kayne West
2) Irving Plaza "End of the Game" vocalist

:)
c'mon now 9, the question was for reggadabla. please do not delegitimize an honest inquiry. :)
i'm sure that reggadabla had specific musicians on his mind when he wrote his statement. and, as you may have noticed, he rammed his opinion home with the words ' to say the least ' so that signifies that these particular musicians not only 'suck' , they must really really 'suck'. since he was kind enough to only 'say the least', one can only conclude that he could have said even worse regarding these particular musicians. so i am just curious which 'musicians' <---take note, it's plural, so reggadabla is obviously thinking of more than one musician in this case.
as i wrote above, this could be very interesting...that is only if reggadabla will be willing to anwer the question.
so again i ask, with great curiosity and interest:
reggadabla, would you mind taking out some time to list some names of those musicians who have 'sucked'?

Kayne West, - good one. I'm not trying to be glar cause it is just my opinion

Mr West was 9's answer. as funny as it was, it wasn't really relevant to the question i asked you. since he never could be labelled as one of "Sting's musicians", i have no doubt in my mind that he was not a consideration when you made your initial statement. i understand it is just your opinion, but what i was seeking was some detail. you must have been referring to "some os Sting's musicians" with specific musicians in mind...or why else would you post such a statement? so all i am requesting is a list of those musicians that had been foremost on your mind when you wrote those words. i think it should be simple, since you obviously wouldn't add something like that to the discussion without having some frame of reference in mind while doing so. i am simply curious to learn that frame of reference.

For as much a poor Kipper gets lambasted here on this site, we'll start with him (the poor sob!). Sting has had a few of his choices in musicians turn out to be "duds". It's all fair though. I can't say that Stewart & Andy were always the most capable for some of Sting's music either. Sting has a lot more control obviously over the results of solo works. With The Police, it is a synergistic development of the music, and he has less control of it. Take your preference, each has its Pro's & Con's.

Lute lesson time....

no offense meant at all, Sport!, but my question was initially directed at reggadabla and such a question was posed due to this statement:
"Some of STing's musicians have sucked to say the least."
And all i really really wish to know is which particular musicians he was thinking of when he made the statement....simple enough, which musicians that were deemed worthy enough by Sting to work with him actually "SUCKED"? to be more precise, according to reggadabla, they "SUCKED TO SAY THE LEAST" - so we can assume that they were at a level which was even worse than 'sucking' as musicians. :)
i'm simply seeking specifics from him and the anticipation for the answer is only stoking my curiosity. :)
but since you have joined the conversation, Sport!, two sincere questions for you directly: is it the case that you believe Mr Kipper Eldridge 'sucks' as a musician overall or do you feel that he was a 'dud' stylistically in accordance to his contribution to Sting's work? these are too very different options, so i think some clarity is order.
also, why the reference to the Lute? you have now peaked my interest as well. :)

sport I will go with you on this one, Kipper sucked big time and led to the destruction of STing's solo career. You are right sport..there have been a few more " duds" in STing's solo career. They sucked glar..period just leave it at that. By far sport, Stewart have been his best drummer he has had ever had

Sport, you might like this. I found this very funny comment

"Agreed. I think that Sting has a very promising career ahead of him, playing 400 year-old songs on an ancient guitar. Why I'm sure that all his die-hard fans will pack-out stadiums to see and hear "Sting Van Winkle".

Yep... he'll do better than he ever would have with The Police."

I just brought up Kipper as he seems to get so much of the "grief" on this site. I personally enjoyed the SL and BND albums! However, there are those here who think that Sting probably gave up his stylings for Kipper's.

I love bringing up the lute! Sting has a "serious" sense of humor with this! I think it is a fantastic project and will prove to be a critical step forward in his own legacy.

Bottom line is this, nothing Sting has done, or will do, can be considered "perfect" or "untouchable". Someone, somewhere will always have an issue with something he's done or said. To think otherwise is not realistic.

reggadabla, i will honor your request to "just leave it at that", regardless that you've refused to give specifics and name those musicians who you happen to believe "sucked". i think this fact in itself says all i really need to know about your statement.

Amen.........

glar really what is the point?

I think when an artist has worked with some of the greatest musicians around, and plenty of them, you can excuse any occassional use of not so great musicians!

Anyway I dont understand why people see such a huge difference between "The Police" and "Sting", I agree with your post up the thread Sport, its just different stages in Sting's career!

Isn't it funny that Andy doesn't want to let go?

Something interesting is lurking in the shadows, no doubt.

what is the point? i was honestly attempting to discern the logic behind your opinion. so i figured that if you actually gave specifics regarding those 'some' 'musicians' who have 'sucked', then perhaps i could learn where you are coming from. i'm content to 'just leave it at that' if you choose not to offer specifics.
please understand, many posters around here find it easy to give specific examples to back up their opinions. i thought that you'd like to do the same, but let's 'just leave it at that'.

Here's one...Sting on guitar from Blue Turtles...what was he thinking?

I'm half-kidding with this, but there's some element of discontent no matter what occurs.

Lol Sport, I didnt even know Sting played guitar on DOTBT! He plays it pretty well on Fragile though! ;-)

Glarb dont waste your energy, of course everyone is entitled to express their opinions but this guy takes the biscuit, its seems he's either a sandwich short of a picnic (no offense) or he just likes to wind people up, I'd guess its the latter!

Now all that talk of food has made me hungry! :P

It's funny, on songs like Fragile and BOTN, Sting really shines...I wonder if that style of playing better suites him? His lute playing is incredible of what I have seen/heard.

Lady, that's not fair to reggadabla. he has requested that we respect his opinion, so i thought that a little more information regarding this particular opinion would assist in helping me understand where he was coming from.
by the way, you may want to refrain from any personal judgements - we've been warned.

gla, thank you once again for your wonderful statments. You are right. Actually karel asked that we respect ALL opinions and personal judgements which I will be doing so when Karel returns and see the dolphin's message, I think the point will be made once again...so moving on

As far as STing on the guitar, I have to give credit to him for doing it. That was a very bold move on his part. For his style for DOBT and NLTS, I was impressed. Moving from one instrument to another takes guts for any musician. His use of his fender strat with the Roland JC 120 amp to play roxanne and EBYT was superb.

and I agree with you Sport, something is lurking in the deep dark shadows :-)

Yes indeed! And may be something that none of us would expect...

glar is right. it's a forum where people come to discuss things. if you have your opinion and just want to put it somewhere there are open letters, classified ads, public statements.

Glarbage wrote:
"please understand, many posters around here find it easy to give specific examples to back up their opinions. i thought that you'd like to do the same, but let's 'just leave it at that'."

That is CLASS - IC Glarb.

I did say I didnt mean any offense, I just wanted to join in on the fun! :P Now regga is saying good things about Sting to mess with our heads!!

Alright, alright im only messing around! Peace! :)

OK I have no idea what this thread is about anymore!

Talking of Bring on the Night, I wish Sting would play Brian again! I think the double bass suits him the most!!

that roland JC120 amp is great for jazz as well as acoustic songs such as Roxanne. I know caused I've used it. Now if he had used the double bass on Bring for the Police tour and Andy on the guitar, that would have been great

with the Moog pedals as well

"That is CLASS - IC Glarb."

:) thanks. but i wasn't going for "classic" status. :) i just happen to believe the statement i made should be the basic point behind making one's opinion known. for example, Trini has been very good at making his strong opinions well known because he also brings with him many points to back up his opinions. and definitely you, baht, have had to use solid evidence to back up your views and observations. i'm thinking of that one very long laundry list in particular. :) but the point is that many of us have strong opinions - it is easy to spout off and give generalizations...yet to be able to state comprehensive facts to back up one's opinion will give greater validity to you and your opinion around this forum. that should be how you earn respect, because one should never just expect respect when ranting and raving with no solid basis of fact to back you up.

I'm still glad Andy won't let go as he stated this again in a recent article

I mean, Andy not letting go doesn't mean a thing. Stewart seemed pretty content with ending this tour and not recording new stuff, and by the look of Sting at that last show, he couldn't be happier it's all done and over with.

Onward to newer and better things.

Thats what I've been saying at least I think it was/is.

If the other 2 don't want to record new stuff does it mean anything.

We could all want an album so bad but still not get it if the members of the band don't want to do it.

We could just hold our breath and oh wait I don't want to turn blue just yet.

I am glad to see this end. I went to one of the shows last year and it all seemed like a massive commercial enterprise aimed at milking the fans' nostalgia. Paying for a fan club to purchase tickets or getting non-stop e-mails to buy stuff was a case in point.

I am happy that Andy got to show the world that he is even better than previously thought. Stew is always Stew, though he seemed a bit on Prosac, as many of the songs were considerably slower than the originals. I am sure Sting had a thing or two to do with this.

The band could have jazzed things up a bit with a few rarities, but alas, this was meant to be a cash cow for the "greatest hits" masses.

Some points to discuss:
1) The Police has EVER been a commercial group. Miles strategy was making money, not making art. Whoever denies this denies sun gets out from East.
That doesn't mean heir work wasn't artistic. Simply, their strategy was a comemrcal one, not a Radiohead one, just to do an example.
2) Probably you never took Prozac. Sadly I had and have to. Surely it doesn't slow action, just the contrary.
3) The Greatest Hits was obviously due to the character of the Tour. You cannot go touring after 25 years and NOT play So Lonely or other tunes. In one year and half I read everything about fans tastes, and none agree each other. btw, NORMAL people went to only 1, 2 concerts and not 15 as some others lucky "fools". So we wanted to hear our best remembered songs.

Just my opinion..... (Prozac apart. That's experience.)

i agree, micra. there is and never was going to be a way everyone would walk out completely pleased. I, for one, like the fact that a lot of the songs were slowed down. I recently watched a tape of the synchronicity tour, and my god wrapped around your finger sounded worse than i remember it. it's one of my favorite police tunes, but after hearing it on this tour, the older version just doesn't compare.

and as for the commercial stuff, that's a given. back in the day, the police were doing wrigley gum and mtv commercials. not exactly anti-establishment/commercialism. besides, sting's acquired a few more castles since the police days, and that kind of property ain't cheap.

1) "Police has EVER" means what, exactly? Miles is not the band, but rather its former manager. Sting has argued a thousand times that he would have kept writing songs even if people did not buy into them. That is not an argument for making money. Nevertheless, I was talking about THIS tour. To make a claim about a band based on the wants of its former manager is quite a weak argument. To make one based on the trio's T.V. ads from two decades ago is even dumber.
2) I am not a doctor. I should have said Valium. Excuse me. Hopefully the point is now clinically clearer.
3) Speak for yourself. "Walking in Your Footsteps" is not my "best remembered" song. Many "normal" people were tired of hearing the same setlist.

sastal, Miles has always being referred as the 4th member of The Police. Now it seems that Sting has some virtues.... LOL! This tour wasn't different from what The police were and always been. It is simply obvious.
What do you expect they should play? Mother, Behind my camel, Miss Gradenko.... what??? It's obvious that a group reforms to play their hits. I'm not saying I liked all they played, I'm only saying there were NO set list everyone would have loved the same. Not all the 80,000 in Turin (the only concert I could attend) are rabid fans as some of us are. They simply know the hits, and not all.
I surely have loved a total inventive set list/concert wth jazzy exploration, personal enrichment and so on. I would have liked more not-so-known songs (because I like THOSE ones that will be surely different from your fave or other fans fave songs) but this is simply utopia. They wouldn't have done 150 concerts all over the worlds choosing that line. This is why I'm so sad they didn't do the Unplugged.... I'm sure they are wonderful musicians that could re-create really exciting sound. They could have dared what they coudn't live.
That said.... I am surely not the first one saying Reunion Tour was made for money. You said it too. This is it, take it or loose it.
And above all.... peace! we are only exchanging our opinions here. If we all thought the same, were will be the fun?

Oh My God they didn't play Mother

or is that

Mother they didn't play Oh My God

nor did they play

stuck behind My stinking Camel

granted the Police weren't working for Peanuts

and not sure if they Rehumanized Themselves

and for sure it wasn't a Secret Journey

why certainly I'd like my Tea In The Sahara... Hot

and Ms Gradenko wasn't all too happy because they didn't play I Burn For You

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Fish, I'm glad you got out from the rock to tell us this.... just forgot Omegaman stumbling in Darkness trying to escape a Fallout. (love these songs......)

Lest we appear unappreciative...but we should recognize that they did play these songs:

"Murder"
"Spirits"
"Bed's 2 Big"
"Truth"
"Voices"
"Hole"
"Footsteps"
"BOTN"

Plus stayed original to CSLY (w/ the RDB "creme filling")...

None of these were really big "HITS" per say.

Plus gave us 3 covers...

True, they may not have all been played at most concerts, but they were all played at one time or another on this tour.

Let's give Sting and the boys their due.

With all due respect Sastal, I don't think my reference to the Police's TV ads is "even dumber", as you so unnecessarily stated. That point merely goes towards the character of the group; its priorities and marketing strategies. What I meant to establish with that comment was that the Police were and still are very much a commercial group. You need to look no further than their deal with Best Buy for this reunion tour, as well as other major corporations. And let's not forget the option to purchase a membership via their website which allows for early tickets, among other things.

Also, this is a discussion board. I believe those of us who have been here for a while enjoy a healthy debate about music, whether it's the Police or Sting. But throwing words like "dumb" into the mix really just ruins it for everybody. There have been some major disagreements as of late on this board, which is perfectly fine and expected when people come together and state different viewpoints, but they have turned ugly. The reason for this is because some members can't help but resort to personal attacks. So, I guess what I'm saying is that by attacking someone personally, or insulting their intelligence makes you a part of the problem.

I thought that Sastal would have been happy to find that Paul Weller and his double album 22 Dreams found an audience. Instead I find this person trying to get into a scrape like The Jam did in the Leeds Hotel in 1977. I guess in Sastal's opinon it was acceptable for the Jam to reduce themselves to opening for Blue Oyster Cult in 1978 for commercial success. What I don't understand is why it is not acceptable for Sting and the Police to successfully tour playing a set list they chose.

I don't think a Jam or Style Council tour could come close to matching the success of this recent Police tour.

Using logic to reason with Sastal is more difficult than trying to enjoy that extremely lengthy 22 Dreams CD released by that Peter (I'm sorry) Paul Weller.

Sastal,

You once asked why Sting has never posted on this site. Sting has more important things to do than that Peter (I'm sorry) Paul Weller. You hate Sting and his music. I don't know what satisfaction you receive from posting in this forum. I would never spend my time spewing hate on an artists site that I didn't enjoy.

Sting “had” some virtues. I do not repute Miles to be the fourth member of The Police, but assuming he were, he would have made this tour a much more dignified affair than what it became. For those comparing The Police’s commercialism to that of two decades ago, I know how The Police were being promoted back in 1980/1/2: wall posters, radio play, a few magazines and, later on, for those who had the luxury to see them, videos. Besides, people seem to forget the early days of Stewart stuffing the 45s into record sleeves; today, even Stew talks about the machine that his band has become. This tour was so over the top in comparison to other bands’ reunions (e.g. Genesis, Eagles, etc.) that I was disgusted. Do not try to pitch me every possible product imaginable, Best Buy, the fan club, the poster, the book, Sting’s son CD, his daughter’s clothing (or whatever she does), and all the rest of the useless junk that some of you obviously do not mind having stuffed in your faces. More importantly, do not try to pitch to me that my appreciation for the band’s music is a function of the amount of stuff I am willing to buy from you, okay? This experience certainly has turned me off from the band’s music for awhile.

My family and I work at high levels in the corporate world, so please do not come to me saying that this is the nature of business, as we know business better than most of you. Now, is Sting to blame for this? Perhaps not, but I am sure he did not mind seeing it happen.

About the music, I will tell you what they should have done: keep a fixed number of songs on the setlist and have two or three additional ones rotate every month or so. That certainly would have moved me to see them twice or even three times. They are musicians, not rocket scientists, so it would have been possible to do what I am saying with relative ease (please do not use the jumbotrons as an excuse). Of course, the schmoozers in here who think Sting could never do anything to displease them will disagree with me.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

IYT,

I never said that I hate Sting’s music. But then again, you think that I like The Jam, a band about which I know hardly anything. Before you worry about using logic with someone, I suggest you have your brain checked for memory capacity. I am glad Sting has more important things to do with his time than to post here. It shows even more what a fool you are defending everything he does.

sastal, good point Sadly this was a cash cow tour. The songs were slowed thanks to STing and not Stewart. We did not get any new songs thanks to STing. We got the same banal song list thanks to STing. As I said STing has to really think hard about not abandoning the possibility of a Police album. Plus the public want it

Sastal quote 1:

Weller has had five top 10 (including one at number one and two at number two) albums in the UK with The Style Council alone, and who knows how many more in the rest of Europe and Asia. So he really didn't "fail at the jazz thing" at all. Moreover, he was fairly well known in the U.S. with The Jam.

Sastal quote 2:
But then again, you think that I like The Jam, a band about which I know hardly anything. Before you worry about using logic with someone, I suggest you have your brain checked for memory capacity

My point, exactly. Thanks for supporting it!

Lighten up people - it was only a rock show!!!!

Sastal quote 3:

I was expecting much more class from Weller, another favorite of mine.

Boy, pretty flimsy connections here. You would be quite weak with syllogisms. Keep trying, though!

Thank you for proving my point that using logic in reasoning with you is difficult.

Nothing proved, moron. You claim that I have some form of attachment to and knowledge of The Jam just because I like TSC. I know hardly anything about The Jam, and your weak quotes support this fact. You have a below-average intelligence quotient if you believe otherwise. Now go and try to use your "logic" with someone who has your limited I.Q. Only a fool would bring into this thread some debate from many months ago.

You are the person using syllogisms and other inferences in your latest statement. I graduated Summa Cum Laude with my bachelors degree and graduated with a 4.0 GPA with my masters degree.

There is no syllogism on my part, but nice try. I really could not care less what your grades in school were. If you want to compare curricula, start another thread and I will be happy to go into detail about my MA, MBA, and the top school I attended. Nice way to defend an argument, fool.

Is there a lawyer in the house? We need mediation for these parties!

Grumpy Smurf "Woo hoo party in the thread!"

in retrospect, STing could have been more giving and less stingy with the setlist, especially after 150 shows. The tour did turn into the machine as Stewart put it. I wonder what would have happened if Miles was involved with the tour. In fact I still don't have the real reason as to why he was not involved in the first place