Sting: Today's rock music "bores me"
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Seagull

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Check Quick Votes. Url next.

Oct 20, 06 | 10:27 am


Seagull

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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/19/people.sting.reut/

Oct 20, 06 | 10:29 am
Franny49

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Whoa I'm surprised at the results.

Oct 20, 06 | 11:22 am
micra

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I think that it depends from the readers of the e-page... this kind of surveys has never a statistical meaning, because the people who answer is NOT a sample at all. I don't think that many teenager or hard rock fans get a look to cnn.online... to get a proper answer you have to select a proper sample representative of the whole population (age, sex, education, residence, work.... etc).

Oct 20, 06 | 2:52 pm
Seagull

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I agree, it's not a statistical meaning. But those who vote for the first item doesn't mean they don't like this kind of music.

Indeed, surveys always depends from the readers...Anyway, it's for the fun !

Oct 20, 06 | 8:52 pm
micra

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yeah, sure! it was only a professional clarification, not a judgement.... btw, I should prefer Sting would keep his large mouth closed, instead of saying things like these, that sound polemical and pro domo sua. SFTL critics have been not bad, so why seeking attention with such affirmations?
The results are like these ones... and surely many many other opinions in the whole globe!

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,20613975-7484,00.html
http://www.bloggernews.net/1824

Oct 20, 06 | 11:48 pm
Franny49

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You realize Sting said just about the same thing back in 1985 when he released "Dream Of The Blue Turtles."

Oct 21, 06 | 1:04 am
micra

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Yes, and then back in 1990.... he's starting to repeat himself. And he risks to be roughly criticized.... after all 21 years has passed since then. Someone could ask him what has he done to change this situation....
I really don't understand. He did this album for himself (at least it's what he says) so why he wants to raise up such a polemics? It can't do well to him and the album... id it disturbs a fan like me, who follow him since pratically rhe beginning, what his detractors will feel? They'll say he is a a...hole once again.

Oct 21, 06 | 2:49 am
micra

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ok, folks, my headache is hitting heavily on my typing.... "if it disturbs" not id
and "the beginning" not rhe... other silly words?

Oct 21, 06 | 2:51 am
Franny49

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He's always stated that about modern music. What has he done to change it?????? He did Desert Rose for one. It is trying to change peoples attitudes about different forms of music with worldly instruments and a different cast to the music. And he doesn't care about the critics. When he did The Soul Cages
the critics were all over him because they didn't understand it. It's a beautiful album. He's always been a little ahead of his time. That's why doing John Dowland is so unique. To show the world there is more out there than Beyonce and Justin, both very good performers but everything sounds the same. People didn't understand Sacred Love either but eventually the rest of the world will catch on. He is his own person and is a rare gem.

Oct 21, 06 | 4:16 am
GoneFishing

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Question: If the interviewer asks the the question to Sting "How do you feel about pop/rock today?" How would you prefer that Sting replies to the question.

Do you prefer that he be honest?
Do you prefer that he lies? Which he may have done here to help push the new album.
Do you prefer that he does a little of both? Which is what he may have done.
Do you prefer that he says "I have no comment, or oh look at the shade of blue in that gray sky?"

Oct 21, 06 | 4:19 am
Franny49

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I don't think he lied on this one because he's said it before. So I don't think he was doing to promote the album just explain why he did it. He thinks Rock music gets stuck in Neutral for too long a time. We enjoy a good rock album,
but music doesn't really progress it's been stuck for awhile. That doesn't mean we can't like it, just that it isn't anything really new and different.

Oct 21, 06 | 4:27 am
Franny49

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But being controversial is his gig too.

Oct 21, 06 | 4:28 am
Franny49

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But that's my opinion I could be wrong(my best Dennis Miller)

Oct 21, 06 | 4:42 am
GoneFishing

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I don't think he lied either since he's stated it before and I don't think he should avoid the question if it is asked either.

The results at the CNN pole don't suprise me because most people that watch CNN are going to be older than the general age group of 18 - 24 region who is going to say that rock is still moving and growing and well doing things. I'm sure if I was exposed more to some of the newer stuff I'd change my answer... but in some ways I've become my father which is um scary and annoying to the younger version of me

Oct 21, 06 | 5:00 am
GoneFishing

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....signed sir extra cranky pants :P

Oct 21, 06 | 5:00 am
micra

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I didn't know who this Dennis Miller is, I searched and found on Wikipedia... surely NOT your cup of coffee, fm, isn't it? (I know it should be cup of tea, but I also know how you love coffee my dear fm!!!! LOL!!!)

Oct 21, 06 | 5:01 am
GoneFishing

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Miller

thats the same dennis miller

Saturday Night Live

Oct 21, 06 | 6:03 am
DesertRedRose

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It´s TRUE ...Boring BORING today´s Rock musical panoram! Good one Sting...its like thinking...WHITE and IN BOTTLE=MILK

Oct 21, 06 | 6:07 am
Franny49

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What not the guy, just his humour, did you guys look up th same Dennis Miller????????????? But you're right BRING ON THE COFFEE. Sherlock Holmes once said to Watson in the "Hound Of The Baskervilles", "Watson The Needle"
(Sherlock had a drug habit) My line would be "Gonefishing The Beans" or vice versa. I should probably be Watson an Gonefishing, Sherlock Holmes or whatever.

Oct 21, 06 | 7:45 am
GoneFishing

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By jeaves the beans have got it....

Oct 21, 06 | 8:08 am
Dymples

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Well, I don't know what to think about that cause Sting often says that sometimes he says rubbish on interviews, he says things he doesn't really think. But if you say that he has already said this...
What's confusing me more is that I thought that Sting was considering music as a whole thing and not as a compartmentalized thing (I mean Rock on one side, Pop on another, etc.). And that's why I love Sting's music cause he does Music with no frontiers and he mixes the genres. Maybe that's what he wanted to say, that a music that is not open, that still locked up on itself becomes boring even if it sounds good. So maybe he would say that Pop-Rock or Indian-Rock or somethingelse-Rock please him more than just pure Rock.

Oct 21, 06 | 8:22 am
Franny49

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Don't forget an articles is only as good as the repoter doing the interview.
They do like to take things out of context at times. But I understand what Sting is saying. It's just all melding together not changing any.

Oct 21, 06 | 8:27 am
Lady Dolphin

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Sting confuses me sooooo much!! lol! I think he does believe this coz he's said it before, whether he's bringing it up again now because of the lute album or not, i don't care, but I still don't understand what he's actually saying!!

First of all, what is Sting referring to when he says "rock music"? What is the definition of that? Does he include his own music (post-Police) in that?!
He says rock music has come to a standstill, so when exactly did it stop moving forward? I mean he's been saying this for years, does that mean he finds his own music boring and stagnant?! lol!
And as Dymples is saying, why is Sting narrowing in on one form of music when he's always going on about how music shouldn't be "ghettoised"?!!

Ahhh.. I don't understand him!! lol!

>>To any true fan of music, rock never comes to a standstill. Radio rock may hit rock bottom every now and then, but someone willing to invest time in finding cutting-edge artists can always do so. If Sting, who considers himself a musician, was willing to get off his rear end and find some good records, he might discover there are several promising trends.<<
(from the BloggerNews article)

I totally agree with this! I mean what music has Sting been listening to exactly? He just says rock music - so he's listened to every band/musician out there at the moment has he?! I doubt it! He says he doesn't even like listening to music, he only listens to classical, so how can he really say all these things?!

Oh sorry, so many questions, and Sting isnt even here to answer them!! :P

Oct 21, 06 | 9:45 am
micra

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It should be great if he could answer us just here LD!!!! I don't understand him too.

Oct 21, 06 | 3:43 pm
TarAncalime

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Well, if Sting critisises the kind of pop music which you hear any day on the radio, then I agree with him too. The real and exciting music is certainly not on these format radio play lists! And he is honest about his own "radio-friendly" music remixes as well...he has been there, done that and now he looks for something different. It could explain those contradictions a bit.

It is a matter of horizon. That bloggerNews type certainly has a different one from Sting! ;-)

Oct 21, 06 | 7:55 pm
Franny49

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Read Andy Summers book, if you understand their generation, you'll understand what Sting means.They had the greatest example of a revolutionary from that generation who changed the face of music. No one has come along since to bring this kind of change to Rock. Jimi Hendrick changed the way everybody thought. listened.and wrote music after him. When you have someone like that who inspires you everyhthing pales in comparison. Musicians like Sting Andy and Stewart had so many great musicians to look up to. Is Justin, or Beyonce in that category. I don't think so. So do yourself a favor and read One Train Later, you just might understand. Or maybe you just had to be there.

Oct 21, 06 | 9:49 pm
Franny49

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You see I understand because I am his generation. The music we had was
almost cosmic compared to todays.

Oct 21, 06 | 10:15 pm
micra

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yeah, fm, I can understand you, but we must be remember that every generation thinks to be greater than that before and after it!!!! LOL!!!
however, I agree, but then I'm an old girl too!!!
I'd like to read Andy's book, but I really don't know when and IF it will arrive here in Italy!!!!

Oct 22, 06 | 1:47 am
whynot

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Rock music is having a renaissance at the moment. I was always a big fan of 70's rock bands, but I must say that in 2006 there are such great bands out there that I am no longer jealous of theose older than me who could have seen Led Zeppelin or Genesis with Peter Gabriel. Bands like Muse are on an equal level with Hendix et al.....
I think sting is just a bit sour that he is no longer on the cutting edge of rock or pop music.....

Oct 22, 06 | 1:50 am
Lady Dolphin

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Things are different now, when Sting was young it was easy, there were only a few bands around anyway, rock and roll music was basically just being invented - the Beatles etc, there was nothing before that, so it must have been absolutely amazing and exciting - something like that can't be repeated, that is the history of music!! Things have moved on now! So what does Sting expect?!

Oct 22, 06 | 2:00 am
Franny49

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But it can be repeated and if bands like Muse as you say whynot are on an equal level that's fantastic of they get noticed. Problem is everybody's stuck in gear and needs to open up to someone new. I have never heard Muse. But now I will look them up, because you mentioned them. If I don't like them so be it this is not my generation. Hopefully this generation gets something fantastic too.

Oct 22, 06 | 4:14 am
Franny49

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http://muse.mu/index.php

Ok, I listened they are good but nothing I haven't heard before.

Oct 22, 06 | 4:16 am
micra

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I think that at this point no band can do things never heard before. We need a new Beatles, but times have changed, it's all so quick, I can't think of how a "revolution" in music can happen anymore. But perhaps I'm wrong, and it's all a matter of age and generation. It seems to me that arts revolution must be linked to a changing of perpsectives of life itself, and nowadays the main concern seems to be money and fame. I really risk to seem conservative, but I still think that videos have ruined music. Even if wonderful things have been done in this field (some musical videos are really wondeful), I'm sure that some rubbish wouldn't ever be produced if it was not for music video channels. Forgive my age....

Oct 22, 06 | 4:29 am
micra

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http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3706294&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Oct 22, 06 | 5:09 am
Franny49

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I think you could be right about the videos micra. It used to be you could just enjoy watching the band play in a video,(although Queen started the ball rolling with there rather interesting video) But now they all have to be BIG production numbers Mini Movies as it were. Takes away from the music.
AND there is good music out there but what's popular over shadows what is really good.

Oct 22, 06 | 5:22 am
micra

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Precisily my thought. You can hear very good music played by unknown musicians that perhaps won't ever have a contract, and then you see and hear some rubbish things on mtv... But it's only fair to make this distinction, and not saying that all today's music is rubbish.

Oct 22, 06 | 5:34 am
johnnyjumpstart

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LUTE MUSIC BORES ME TO TEARS

Oct 22, 06 | 7:01 am
micra

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jjs: it's your full right to be bored by it!

Oct 22, 06 | 7:13 am
johnnyjumpstart

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Thanks very much:) I do like the Lute version of FOG however:) I'd like to hear a few other old Police/Sting songs on Lute. Perhaps Book Of My Life

Oct 22, 06 | 7:50 am
Lady Dolphin

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LOL, that was funny Johnny!!

I actually like the lute music, but funny how Sting says rock music isnt moving forward then he moves back 4 centuries!! lol!

Oct 22, 06 | 8:53 am
Franny49

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Not a bad idea johnny. And micra is right you don't have to like the lute music.
As long as you listened, it's ok. I think he was trying to find his inner Renaissance Man Lady D. LOL LOL

Oct 22, 06 | 4:49 pm
Franny49

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Sting quote:

I'm bored with music between 1955 and 1980. I'm completely bored. I can't listen to a rock and roll record. I can't do it. I would rather listen to hogs screwing."


Oct 22, 06 | 5:16 pm
Lady Dolphin

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Hogs screwing, nice!! LOL! Franny where is this quote from?! A while ago im guessing?! Or else someone needs to tell Sting its 2006!! :P

Oct 22, 06 | 10:57 pm
Franny49

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I think I found it on a Biography of Sting but I can't remember where. I put that Bio on the Group on My Space. If that's true it sort of shoots my theory all to hell but I think he was being sarcastic on that one, or was misquoted.
But it's likely he wanted to cause a stir. DUH

Oct 23, 06 | 2:45 am
micra

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As always, it's not a case he loves Steerpike!!!!

Oct 23, 06 | 3:12 am
bahtology

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Sting's occasional dismissals of rock music give me such a great sense of hope. If rock music bores him, then most likely he will not make some pathetic attempt at writing and recording back to basic rock-pop songs. I reckon the Broken Music Tour was just a phase that he felt he needed to go through to appease certain fans. Now he can get back to a more sophisticated sound and style.

Oct 26, 06 | 4:20 am
GhoSting

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I hope so....bahtology!

Oct 26, 06 | 6:52 am
Trini

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Sting is just saying that, his next tour will be a similar styled Broken Music lineup, he's headed rock/pop on the next album/tour. Nothing is wrong with that, once it's a sophistication of a Synchronicity, all will be happy!

Oct 26, 06 | 5:10 pm
glarbage

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c'mon now baht, a few of us can read between your lines and cut like a buzz saw right through the certain buzz words :)
'back to basics' vs 'sophisticated sound'
back to basics = broken music concept of rocking out, essentially dumbing down the sound.
sophisticated style = lineups with top flight world class musicians such as, perhaps Vinnie or Rebello? ya gotta get past it and face the facts, those two aren't coming back to the Sting fold anytime soon. they found a new outlet that allows them to express a much wider range of their capabilities.


Oct 26, 06 | 11:51 pm
micra

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I WANT VINNIE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 27, 06 | 2:45 am





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